To: devnull@falcon3.k9.com (Falcon3 Mailing list) From: devnull@falcon3.k9.com (Falcon3 Mailing list) Reply-To: devnull@falcon3.k9.com (Falcon3 Mailing list) Sender: devnull@falcon3.k9.com (Falcon3 Mailing list) Errors-To: postmaster@falcon3.k9.com Return-Path: devnull@falcon3.k9.com (Falcon3 Mailing list) Precedence: bulk Bcc: falcon3-outgoing Subject: Falcon3 Digest V7 : I4 Falcon3 Digest Volume 7 : Issue 4 Tue Dec 13 06:47:19 PST 1994 Compilation copyright (C) 1994 Jeff Beadles Send submissions to "falcon3@falcon3.k9.com" Send add/drop requests to "majordomo@falcon3.k9.com" Archives are available via ftp from cactus.org Today's Topics: RE: Flight models (again) "Butts, Stuart L." Subject: RE: Flight models (again) >BTW can someone (guess who) expand a bit on the sparse function >descriptions on the first pages of the FLCS manual? I'd like >to know what the real F16 "target management" functionality consists >of, among others. Lots of stuff. Mostly A2G target management, ie switching sensors of interest, swapping MFD displays, etc. Over the holidays, I hope to have enough time to do up a B50 file that mimics the F-16 as close as possible. I hope Jeff won't mind if I post it to the list, since I can't do FTP. >1. The tmstick utility to adjust the null zone is great. It enhances > your feel considerably. But it also disables the look-down ILS > view. My flight path marker often drops off my HUD now and that is > a bit irritating, expecially when landing on a carrier. I solve > this by flying a bit faster. Does the FPM drop off the HUD in > reality? Can you actually *see* the spot on the ground where you > are going to touch down, or do you aim for the numbers, pull up and > wait for the impact? How much can you see below the nose anyway? No, you can see the fpm on the HUD. For the F-16, looking at an 11-13 deg AOA approach with a 3 deg glideslope. For the F/A-18 your looking at an 8 deg AOA approach with a 3-5 deg glideslope. The HUD has plenty of room for that. I don't like the ILS shift, even if it does mess some other things up. - Stuart ------------------------------- From: "Butts, Stuart L." Subject: RE: MODEM PLAY FUNCTIONS >I have been trying to use the camera to record missions in H2H but >doesn't seem to work, on either end. The other thing is that you can't >eject. Is there some reason these don't work in H2H duel. They just don't work. SH didn't include that capability. They know we want it for F4. > Are there any other unique functions\switches for H2H duel or coop play? You know the ` key activates the chat window? - Stuart ------------------------------- From: md@bisto.jf.intel.com Subject: Re: falcon and scsi On Mon, 12 Dec 1994 06:11:00 +0700 falcon3.k9.com!devnull writes: > From: krismon@Neuromancer.HACKS.Arizona.EDU (Kris Ongbongan) > Subject: Re: falcon and scsi > > > > > HI, just thought I would let you know, I am running Falcon 3.0e and > > Falcon 3.01.1 on scsi with no problems. I have an ibm 540 meg scsi > > drive and adaptec card 1542CF, running on 330 in a data general > > (zenith 386). I have tried to upgrade with the latest 3.05 patch > > which supposidly will update any rev to 3.05 with no success. I've > > tried updating against straight 3.0e, and also with 3.01.1. Maybe > > this problem occurs at a later rev with scsi? Anyways just wanted > > to let you know someone is out there running scsi Falcon. > > > Yup, I guess the problem is only with later versions... I guess you do what > works for you.. What problems with later versions?? I have 3.04 and 3.05 loaded on my system which is SCSI-only using an Adaptec 1542CF... Cheers, Mark. - -- Mark Doran PHONE: +1 (503) 264 7705 Intel Corp. FAX: +1 (503) 264 7902 Mailstop JF3-206 EMAIL: md@littlei.intel.com ------------------------------- From: krismon@Neuromancer.HACKS.Arizona.EDU (Kris Ongbongan) Subject: Re: falcon and scsi > What problems with later versions?? I have 3.04 and 3.05 loaded on my system > which is SCSI-only using an Adaptec 1542CF... > I'm sure it doesn't apply to everyone... but a lot of people have been having problems with falcon and scsi cards on 330h... but if you don't have the problem then good for you. =) Kris. - -- Kristoffer Ongbongan Krismon on IRC krismon@neuromancer.hacks.arizona.edu -=- The Electronic Battlefield Series FAQ ftp://ftp.hacks.arizona.edu/pub/krismon/ebsfaq (ebsfaq or falcon3 faq) http://neuromancer.hacks.arizona.edu/~krismon ------------------------------- From: md@bisto.jf.intel.com Subject: Re: falcon and scsi Hi Kris (et al.): On Mon, 12 Dec 1994 16:22:18 MST Kris Ongbongan writes: > > What problems with later versions?? I have 3.04 and 3.05 loaded on my system > > which is SCSI-only using an Adaptec 1542CF... > > > I'm sure it doesn't apply to everyone... but a lot of people have been > having problems with falcon and scsi cards on 330h... but if you don't have > the problem then good for you. =) In fact I've installed and run every variant of F3 from the d patch onward without trouble on the 1542B card I have. I have recently swapped to a 1542C card to be able to move the I/O port and still boot from SCSI. My C card is now set at 334H so that I can use my newly aquired Roland LAPC-1 card for sound (love that stall horn effect ;-); the Roland is hardwired for 330H for the MPU-401 port. If anyone's still having problems with 1542B or C model, I'd recommend looking hard at your memory manager. I have been completely unable to get F3 to run on my box using either QEMM 6.x and 7.x or MemMaker with either the B or the C card... Only 386MAX has proven up to the challenge (no, I don't work for Qualitas -- I relate my experience only so your mileage may vary). Anyway my point, which I should have made in my earlier message, is that I'd be happy to share config files and war stories with anyone still having problems. I know how painful this stuff is -- it took me a long time (and lots of net-suppplied advice) to get things stable enough to do away with a boot floppy for Falcon... Take heart: it can be done! Cheers, Mark. - -- Mark Doran PHONE: +1 (503) 264 7705 Intel Corp. FAX: +1 (503) 264 7902 Mailstop JF3-206 EMAIL: md@littlei.intel.com ------------------------------- From: krismon@Neuromancer.HACKS.Arizona.EDU (Kris Ongbongan) Subject: Roland sound (was Falcon and scsi) > My C card is now set at 334H so that I can use my newly aquired Roland LAPC-1 > card for sound (love that stall horn effect ;-); the Roland is hardwired for > 330H for the MPU-401 port. > For those who has still to hear Roland sound for Falcon. you REALLY REALLY have to try it. The only problem is, Roland stopped making lapc-1/mt-32. And the new roland cards don't work. I found mine used for $100 (lapc-1). and it works great... the gmidi emulation doesn't sound as well as the sampled cards, but I don't think anyone can beat the synthesis for falcon. Kris. - -- Kristoffer Ongbongan Krismon on IRC krismon@neuromancer.hacks.arizona.edu -=- The Electronic Battlefield Series FAQ ftp://ftp.hacks.arizona.edu/pub/krismon/ebsfaq (ebsfaq or falcon3 faq) http://neuromancer.hacks.arizona.edu/~krismon ------------------------------- From: michaelb@tenmail.mincom.oz.au (Michael Barnes) Subject: Mig29 vs Falcon Performance There have been some postings recently about whether the Mig or F16 had an advantage in Head to Head play. This has been a topic of some contention here at the 62nd Fighting Falcons in Brisbane, Australia, and I thought I would let you know what our conclusions have been. (I'm not a hot-shot pilot myself, I'm just the only one with Internet access - but this is what the hot-shots have said...) We have been using v3.05 network connected. The conclusions are based on 1v1 dogfights. In Complex flight models, the F16 appears to have the advantage in turning, and will more often down the Mig than visa-versa. This is with our best pilot flying the Mig, BTW. However, in High-Fidelity models, the reverse is the case (at least below 10,000 feet) - the Mig will out-turn the Falcon. This appears to be partially because the Mig can fly at a much higher AOA (thus get it's nose onto the F16 sooner). The trim control also has an influence. With appropriate trim the Mig can pull up to 10G or more in a turning fight (~8.4G sustained). Finally, the rudders on the Mig apparently enable it to perform some manouvers that the F16 finds very hard to follow. The final conclusion of our top pilots - in High Fidelity, (with Blackout OFF and Damage limiter ON, BTW) the Mig was greatly superior to the F16. (I would like to see the test done with Blackout ON and Damage Limiting OFF for a really conclusive result.) Hope this was of interest. Michael Barnes --------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Barnes Internet: michaelb@mincom.oz.au Mincom Pty Ltd Ph. +61 7 303-3148 Fax +61 7 303-3232 ------------------------------- From: J.Hoppenbrouwers@kub.nl (JeroenHoppenbrouwers) Subject: MiG29 landings Well, to be honest, I found the landing so easy exactly *because* the speeds and AoA etc. do not matter as much as with the Falcon or the Hornet. I basically cut the engine to idle power, level off at about 400 ft, line up with the runway, and wait until the sucker bleeds speed enough to drop onto the tarmac. Often I need to apply air brakes (and/or drag chute) to get the speed to drop sufficiently. The 29th stays well within envelope forever, so even if I think I drop a bit too fast, I just pull up and maybe add a bit of throttle. That's it! The lack of a flight path marker makes it a challenge to estimate rate of descent and forward speed, and the corresponding glide slope. But by maneuvering the throttle and the stick, you can easily get the thing onto the numbers, in my experience. *Get slow*! The MiG won't drop as suddenly as the US bricks. It very gradually increases AoA and rate of descent. Jeroen ------------------------------- From: Paul Matthews Subject: Thrustmaster products. Hello Falconers: I have been using Falcon for several years now and have recently thought of upgrading my old joystick with a Thrustmaster including the WCS, adding rudders sometime down the road. Regarding hardware I must proclaim a certain amount of ignorance. I have a couple of questions regarding Thrustmaster products and I thought that someone on the list could answer. Many of these questions arose from reading the TMFAQ. 1) Dual game port. How can you tell if you have one. I have two game ports in my machine (soundblaster disabled) can you tell by looking at them if they are dual port? Is there a 'simple' test that would answer this? 2) Assume that I do have a dual game port, how important is it to have a 'speed adjustable' game port? I am running a 486 /25. I know you are saying "Why don't you go out and buy a dedicated game card?" Well the answer to that is I would but I dont have any room available to put another card and I need all cards that are there. As I said, excuse my ignorance but I thought that the list would be my best source of information. Replies via e-mail, unless you think it is something the whole list might benefit from. TIA Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Matthews Ocean Sciences Centre pmatth@kean.ucs.mun.ca Memorial University of Newfoundland ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- [[ End of digest Volume 7 : Issue 4 ]]